Sneak Peek: Bill's Bar and Burger, Meatpacking District, NYC

The Bill's Classic with American Cheese is phenomenal. Liberally seasoned with salt, sear-crusted to perfection, and just juicy enough, it's good enough to eat plain—though it does come with pickle, tomato, and lettuce. $5.95. [Photographs: Adam Kuban]
Bill's Bar and Burger opens to the public today, but A Hamburger Today got a sneak peek and tasting yesterday. Of course, mileage may vary once the place has to deal with the strain of burger-hungry Meatpacking magpies, but based on yesterday's round of burgers, the place is killer. Dare I say it ... dare I? If the burger quality holds up at Bill's Bar and Burger, then the Shake Shack, long my gold standard for this type of burger, will have a serious—and I mean SERIOUS—rival for my top-of-the-pops favorite burger in NYC. Like neck-and-neck. Like Spy vs. Spy. Like trying to choose which is cooler, Lion Force Voltron or Vehicle Voltron. More pics and analysis, after the jump.

Yeah, I said it was good enough to go without toppings, but a thin slice of raw red onion is oh so nice on it.
I was rolling my eyes a little when Josh Ozersky declared it "the best hamburger in New York," but I had to eat a little bit of crow after tasting this thing. Is it the best? You simply can't declare that after one very controlled advance tasting, but it's damn, damn fine.

Bill's uses the "smash technique" along with an ultrahot nonstick Miraclean griddle to create a salty-crunchy sear on the patty, a now–de rigueur LaFrieda beef blend.
If all this sounds familiar, it's because this is largely what the Shake Shack does. And I suspect part of the narrative you'll see will be, "This is Steve Hanson's answer to the Shake Shack." One vital difference: Bill's uses a five-ounce patty whereas the Shack is rocking four ounces. That little bit extra makes a surprisingly big difference, allowing the patty more spread room and hence more surface area for crusty goodness.

The cook employs the smash technique, really putting some muscle into it. Oh, did I tell you that these burgers are nicely seasoned? The cooks have a tray of salt that they basically dredge the patties in.
A Tale of Influences
The Vitals
- Burgers range from $5.50 (Bill's Classic) to $6.95 (Fat Cat); my favorite, Bill's Classic with American Cheese, is $5.95 and comes with lettuce, tomato, and pickle slices; ask for some raw onion on it, and you've got perfection, my friend
- The best sides were the tempura-like veggie fries and the disco fries
- The shakes and malts are off the hook. Like crazy-ass drinkable sundaes
- Bill's Bar and Burger is the latest Steve Hanson/B. R. Guest venture. Other restaurants in the group include Vento, next door; Blue Water Grill; Dos Caminos; Ruby Foo's, and Primehouse New York, among others
Yes, the Shack-Bill's comparison is probably inevitable, but you know what? While fans of this burger style owe the Shack a huge debt of gratitude for popularizing it in New York City, the Shack didn't come up with this idea on its own. The Steak 'n Shake chain and its cooking method were a large part of the inspiration behind Shake Shack. And Steak 'n Shake itself, founded in 1934 in Illinois, merely reflects the way burgers were cooked at that time—fresh-not-frozen ground beef, smashed down on a hot griddle, served with little in the way of accompaniment. It's a burger style you still see at unassuming mom-and-pop burger joints, diners, and greasy spoons in the Midwest.
It's the type of burger I grew up eating, which explains why I love an plain Shack cheeseburger so much and why Bill's Bar and Burger now has me so jazzed.
One of my favorite Kansas burger joints is Bobo's Drive-in, and the Bill's Classic burger comes as close to approximating Bobo's crusty patty sear as almost anything I've seen in NYC. Better yet, the Bill's patty is thicker than Bobo's, so you don't need to order a double to get the right beef-to-bun ratio. It's well-balanced as is.
In fact, it's kind of funny to see a burger style I grew up with, cooked by anonymous Joe and Jane griddle jockeys, get the kind of treatment it has at the hands of highfalutin' restaurateurs (not to mention watch a new chain like Smashburger spread like wildfire by making the technique a central part of its image and branding). Things have come full circle; the five lions have joined to form a Voltron of unstoppable burger deliciousness.
And Now It's Time to Look at Bill's Burger Pr0n

The Fat Cat is a double-patty burger in which the patties sandwich a layer of American cheese. Sure it's served on an English muffin, but that bunnage actually suits it well. The muffin is toasted and buttered, and the burger is topped with caramelized onions. It's not quite a true double, though. The two meat discs are bigger than half patties but smaller than whole ones so they can fit on the muffin. Here's the autopsy:

Traditionalists, shut your traps. The muffin stands up well to the butter, juices, and onion. But, if you ask, word is they'll serve it on a regular bun for you.

Here's The Sunset and Vine. Yes, the name gives it away, doesn't it? It's no surprise that it's sort of a California-inspired (read "In-N-Out–inspired") burger, with crisp lettuce, fresh tomato, and a secret sauce. The flavors worked well together, but this burger was a little messy.
Other burgers on the menu include a turkey burger that was almost sausagelike, the patty being mixed with provolone, parsley, and garlic to give it some honest-to-goodness flavor. It was actually good, but with the Classic with Cheese and the Fat Cat on the same menu, I'd only see a beef-but-not-poultry-averse eater going for it.
The one burger we didn't get to try was The Bobcat, which true burgerheads will recognize by the name as an homage to the New Mexican green chile cheeseburger served at places like Bobcat Bite. Almost no one in New York has a green chile cheeseburger on the menu because these chiles are hard to get (though Schnipper's approximates one with roasted poblanos). But B. R. Guest restaurant Dos Caminos uses them, and Bill's is using that connection for its burgers.
The Sides

These crispy veggie fries ($4.50) were surprisingly great. The batter was light and delicate, like a good tempura, and the vegetables came out crisp-tender. I didn't expect to like this item as much as I did, but I will say right now that this is the side to get.

I'm not a french fry guy, but these were good ($3.50). Maybe could have used a little more salt. They're cut fresh from Kennebec potatoes.

Disco fries ($4.50) are a New Jersey–diner thing. Fries covered with melted cheese and gravy. I've actually never had the real thing, but I understand that "the real thing" is covered with mozzarella and brown gravy. At Bill's, they use a Cheez Whiz–like sauce. I preferred these to the plain fries. Yeah, because I'm not a fry guy.

I was hoping that the onion rings ($3.50) would use the same light, delicate batter as the veggie fries, but if they did, these must have been left in the fryer a little longer. The batter here was a little too thick and well-done.
As far as sides go, I'd be all over the veggie fries as a burger accompaniment. But, hell, if you're with a group, the sides are inexpensive enough that you could all order one of each and split them. It's a bit more fun that way, anyway.
Bill's will open for dinner at 6 p.m. (Friday, October 16) and will start lunch service on Monday (October 19) at noon. Take-out will be available at launch with delivery to come later.
Oh, and who's Bill? It's named for a place Steve Hanson used to go to as a kid in Westchester County.
Bill's Bar and Burger
22 Ninth Avenue, New York NY 10014 (in the old Hog Pit space at 13th; map)
212-414-3003; billsbarandburger.com/ @billsnyc
Video Bonus: Lion Force Voltron vs. Vehicle Voltron
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28 Comments:
Damn you!
Am I allowed to have a burger for breakfast?
Eating The Road at 7:43AM on 10/16/09
I tasted this burger the other day.. I've been waiting for a burger like this for quite sometime.. Butter toasted bread, cooked on mc griddle, brown and crispy meat patty, American cheese. No BS !!.. .. Leave it to Hanson, let every restaurant in NYC make there Burger first. Then, Steve watches and tastes all there mistakes. Then he and the BRG crew make the best ! The only quibble ! No sesame seeds!! It needs to be on a White enriched bun only!!! All the best..MW
Chefbianco at 8:01AM on 10/16/09
No really...There is absolutely no debate about which Voltron is cooler. Vehicle Voltron was total weaksauce. Lion Force Voltron FTW!
Shervyn at 8:49AM on 10/16/09
This looks fantastic, I'm totally going here tonight. From the looks of it it's basically In-n-Out and Shake Shack, in NYC. Also Lion Force Voltron ftw.
jerkfaceirl at 10:05AM on 10/16/09
man this looks good...
foodinmouth at 10:12AM on 10/16/09
"...the five lions have joined to form a Voltron of unstoppable burger deliciousness..." Adam, I stand in awe of your ability to combine hamburger geekery with Japanese toy geekery.
Anyone else notice that the old catalog page tables were copped from Wendy's?
Joe DiStefano at 10:28AM on 10/16/09
Serious blasphemy here!! Vehicle Voltron can't hold a candle to the lions!
I am not a fan of Steve Hanson or his McRestaurants. That said, this looks awesome and I live a few blocks away. I can see my self going here once per week, easily.
Big B at 10:49AM on 10/16/09
Seriously. Lion Force Voltron. No question.
bobbob at 2:14PM on 10/16/09
334 am - o ion rigns are burnt
graciously awcknoweldgrd as such
no American sub jack
new rings are good salty
wish burger was bigger it's tasteaiting for Oreo shake
no shakes, offered dessert nicely but I'm dine
good stuff nive guys will come back if I'm in the area (prolly not lol)
would have liked to tasted that shake
simon at 3:48AM on 10/17/09
these guys are reLlt nice will have shakes till 4, a lot of girls here
simon at 3:51AM on 10/17/09
omg just another one because it's actually really good
simon at 3:54AM on 10/17/09
sudden influx of mepa doucheness has me loling a lot bitbin a good way waiting for burger n 2 amidst orders of amstel and patron shouts and flirtationa girl rubbing up on me while bf knows nor what to do
simon at 4:00AM on 10/17/09
want to comment more on burger but 1st was ephemeral waiting for the next one
simon at 4:03AM on 10/17/09
sobering up while waiting for my second burger - I think they will make more money off booze than they will off the prowess of their griddle
simon at 4:09AM on 10/17/09
410 - no one but me is actually eating. they just raised the lights as y burger, promised, has yet to materialize. a lot if phones being passed around. I'm hungry
simon at 4:11AM on 10/17/09
you always really want what you can't have - in this case an Oreo shake. I wonder. did they run out of Oreos?
simon at 4:14AM on 10/17/09
ok second burger, lucid - buntasts like chewy matza (a good thing?) meat is well done but juicy, flavor is good but overpowered by the pickled places a few inches away - a testament to the alchemichal powers of osmosis. or something. sufficient. No shake shack. certainly not the best fucking burger inthe city. you have to be fucking kidding.
simon at 4:19AM on 10/17/09
Daniel Boulud? really? phfffft. fuck off
simon at 4:27AM on 10/17/09
Definitely not taking this guy's opinion to be worth anything, gonna check it out this weekend.
Big B at 10:52AM on 10/17/09
Simon: Loved your drunk rolling commentary. Yeah. As I said, it was amazing when I had it in a press tasting. Easy to make greatness there. We'll be going back next week to try it under stress.
Adam Kuban at 12:34PM on 10/17/09
Ouch. brain hurts, feeling slightly embarassed too. sorry for all the cussin :)
simon at 1:58PM on 10/17/09
Tried it last night around 8:30 or so (Bill's Classic with Cheese)...outstanding: juicy, flavorful, thin, a little crisp on the outside. Tried some bites with the lettuce, tomato, and pickles and some without (the pickles did overpower much of the other flavors when you got a big bite of them) Split a side of the vegetable fries which I actually enjoyed more than french fries. Extremely nice staff, kept on checking on us throughout the night, and the entire staff too which was really something.
Moseyed on over to Shake Shack today for comparison (Plain cheeseburger) and while it was very good, I would take Bill's cheeseburger over the Shack's anyday. Hindsight 20/20 probably should've gotten it with lettuce/tomato/pickles...well guess that's just an excuse to do another comparison of heavyweights of deliciousness next weekend.
bcheck217 at 5:32PM on 10/17/09
Noooo! No takeout til next week! They also said that next week they get tvs so you can watch the games, and delivery is just a few weeks away.
Big B at 6:29PM on 10/17/09
Went this evening with my non-burger-eating wife. I had the bill's classic with cheese and disco fries (i went to the gym this afternoon in anticipation of the fries); she had the grouper sandwich and the fried veggies.
I would say the burger is as good as shake shack in terms of beefiness and juicyness. (I should note that I am a fan of a thicker patty, so the shack is not generally in my top 5 anyway.) But, in general, if you put both of them in front of me i'd prolly grab the shack burger first.
Disco fries were good! C'mon, cheese and gravy and potatos. I did not get the sense that the fries we double fried, tho. Could be wrong. We were not too impressed with the fried veggies. Pretty standard - the carrots-tasted-like-the-cauliflower-tasted-like-the-brocolli.
Wife did like her grouper sandwich, as far as she likes sandwiches. Defintiely a fork and knife affair - very drippy with sauces and toppings.
The service was off for us, becasue I think maybe our order did not go in correctly (three tables seated after and ordered after us were served drinks and food before us). However, I will say that I think once they realized this they made efforts. The manager paid us a visit, our server kept us updated. New place, not real fancy, just a hiccup I am sure and they recovered okay.
I'll go back for lunch.
DenghisCon at 12:41AM on 10/18/09
Can someone explain exactly how smash grilling works? It seems to be very popular. I see it was described as what Steak & Shake do... I'm really not a fan of Steak & Shake, as I find their product to be too greasy.
UnasBravas at 6:10PM on 10/18/09
I posted my thoughts on this burger to http://irishfatty.blogspot.com - I think your review is spot on though, you can't declare this the best burger until you're tried it a few times, I got the sunset and vine and it was too messy.
jerkfaceirl at 3:57PM on 10/19/09
A burger on an english muffin is like a bluegrass band with drums.
Sure, you can do it. Some people may even like it, but it don't make it right.
(Looking at you, Yonder Mountain String Band/Westville!)
MikeNYC at 1:36PM on 10/20/09
OK, this Bostonian be in the Meatpacking District/Chelsea for one afternoon next weekend, and cannot decide whether to go to Bill's or Shake Shack for a burger.
I'm leaning toward SS. Anybody want to convince me otherwise?
Thanks!
JSJoyce at 12:34PM on 11/02/09