Paul's Da Burger Joint
If it's Tuesday, it must be time for another review from Nick Solares. Nick is also the publisher of Beef Aficionado, his blog that explores beef beyond burgerdom.


Paul's Da Burger Joint
131 2nd Avenue, New York, NY 10003 (at St. Mark's Place; map); 212-529-3033; paulsburgers.com
Heat Source: Flat-top griddle
Bun Type: Seeded Wonder bread roast beef roll, un-toasted unless you request it toasted.
The Short Order: Paul's burger has a lot of problems. The bun is too small and doesn't hold up to the patty. The patty is flavorless and needs to be heaped with toppings in order to taste like anything.
Want Fries with That? No; they don't have much flavor and you should be full enough from eating the burger alone.
Price: Burger, $4.20/Deluxe, $6.70; cheeseburger, $4.80/7.30; bacon cheeseburger, $8.10/$10.60
I remember when Paul's Palace (now known as Paul's Da Burger Joint) opened back in 1989. It was an audacious move to open a burger joint in the bohemian East Village during a time when wheat grass, alfalfa sprouts, tofu and other health food fads dominated the hood's culinary zeitgeist. Juice bars and sushi were trendy; big greasy burgers and fries, not so much. But Paul apparently knew something, because when the tragically hip sprout eaters got drunk, wheat grass juice was no match for a big, greasy burger and fries.
He also knew that working people wanted a decent meal at a good price. Almost two decades later Paul's thrives, still curing hangovers and ensuring that the steady stream of city workers, truck drivers, college students, and mailmen flocking here were satiated.
Paul's serves a burger style first popularized by Jackson Hole back in the 1970s—a hefty eight-ounce griddle-cooked burger that is so thick, it requires a metal dome to be placed on top during cooking, so the beef reaches the proper temperature. Paul's is not alone in the immediate neighborhood in offering this type of burger—both Silver Spurs and Cozy Soup 'n Burger over on Broadway offer variations of the theme, albeit with far less success. I have heard that Paul actually worked at Jackson Hole at one point; if so, he clearly picked up a thing or two.
What Paul's Is Not
In some ways it's easier to define Paul's by what it is not, rather than what it is. It's not a trendy chef-driven burger joint designed by architects with a custom Pat La Frieda beef blend with organic veggies. Rather, Paul's is decorated in an eclectic style: black-and-white checker board tablecloths, colored lights, snarky signs, and a menagerie of kitschy tchotchkes lining the walls. While they do offer fresh beef, it's just a simple ground sirloin and the lettuce is plain ol' iceburg, as white as the buns they use.
Paul's does not serve, despite the spirited claim emblazoned in neon on the facade, "The best burger in NYC." In fact it does not even serve "the best burger in the East Village" as another sign claims (certainly not with Veselka around the corner). But what Paul's does offer is an honest-to-goodness bargain, especially in this day and age. A plain burger here weighs a full half-pound yet costs less than a gallon of gas. Even a loaded bacon cheeseburger deluxe with onions comes in at under $10. If you got one of those economic stimulus payments this year, you could stay full at Paul's for days.
It's been a few years since I actually saw Paul, but when I did, I noticed how little he's aged since the joint first opened. Sure, maybe he put on a few pounds, but the boyish charm and devilish grin remain.
The Paul's Vibe
There is a definite attitude at Paul's. Not rude, although the uninitiated might feel that way. Sardonic and snarky are more accurate, as reflected in the signage, or more important, the attitude between customers and servers. Try asking for another napkin and the deadpan response will be "sorry, one to a customer." Also be prepared for insane waitresses. I often wonder how Paul managed to pick the most extroverted, quirky characters. It's a burger with a side of Vaudeville.

Burger Preparation
The burgers are cooked on a Toastmaster griddle under the metal domes. Burgers are cooked to order and griddlemen do a great job getting temperatures just right. Even a plain burger is dauntingly massive, while going deluxe adds a mountain of fries and some sad-looking lettuce and tomatoes. There are numerous specialty burgers, such as the St. Mark's burger (a cheeseburger with mushrooms and onions), the East Side "house specialty" burger (bacon, cheese, ham, mushrooms, tomato and onion) and even a Beef Tartare burger, served with raw egg and capers. As a purist, I went for the classic American cheeseburger, which may not be the right way to go here.
The Problem with Paul's
It's sad, but there are a few problems with Paul's burger, and they are big—or in the case of the bun, far too small. Paul's Wonder Bread roast beef rolls with seeds are no match for the hefty, juicy burger. The bun's bottom half completely disintegrates from burger juice while the other half sits helplessly like a beanie on a rotund child, unable to cover much. Eating even a plain burger here yields messy results; a grease-dripping-down-your-sleeve experience. Add the heaping toppings and you'll need silverware. The bun is also served un-toasted and on a recent trip was slightly stale, so be sure to order a toasted bun.
I often discuss beef-to-bun ratios when critiquing burgers but it's pointless here. There is virtually no ratio with this meaty sandwich. For the sake of comparison, imagine a patty double the Shake Shack burger, stuffed into the same-sized bun. The burger requires three hands to eat, and the proverbial five napkins to clean up (of course to get five napkins you would have to order five burgers).

The beef, even though it's fresh-ground sirloin and quite juicy, is virtually flavorless. Not underseasoned, as that would imply that something was added. Rather, the beef lacks even a hint of salt and pepper. Given the bland situation, pile on the toppings: bacon, cheese, onions, mushrooms, ham, whatever. This beef needs all the help it can get. Bacon fan or not, the crunchy strip is almost required here, adding essential saltiness and crunch to the bland and texturally mushy sandwich. Skip the steak fries—though crisp, they, too, lack flavor. Besides, the burger is so massive, you don't really need them.
I Really Do Wanna Like It
Writing this review caused me some consternation. I don't like writing negative reviews about places that I want to like, and I really want to like Paul's. As a staple in my neighborhood, Paul's offers an unpretentious, value-driven burger with a side of attitude. This is real food for working people at a fair price.
But for the burger lover, it falls short in what really matters—taste.
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21 Comments:
I would have never thought to try the burger at Veselka. I'll have to one of these days when I get my fill of pierogies...might be a while :)
bobbob at 10:07AM on 07/29/08
my roommate is rather obsessed with paul's and for the life of me, i do not understand why. it mean, it was alright, but i had the same soggy bottom-half bun issues that you did! doesn't make any sense. the place has its charm, though.
sarahlucy at 10:20AM on 07/29/08
I have been to Paul's many times and are disappointed each time. I want them to do well but their burgers are just tasteless... They just keep missing the boat here. The place looks great but the food is??? well O.K. at best... I guess we are spoiled by the choices that we have in N.Y.C
burgerboy at 10:29AM on 07/29/08
One of the best things about Paul's is that it is almost never crowded, so I am tempted to let your review stand and avoid drawing any more crowds to what I think is absolutely one of the best burgers around.
First, yes, I acknowledge that the meat itself is not very flavorful. But, I would venture to claim that beef flavor is not the most important factor in a good burger, and many inexpensive burgers don't have a lot of taste in the patty itself. I say TEXTURE is key to a great burger, and this is where Paul's really excels. Texture is a result of many elements of the preparation, most importantly of course, not overcooking. But you failed to describe Paul's unusual cooking method... they have a bucket of ground beef next to the grill and just scoop it out and throw it down, hardly forming a patty. This results is an extremely loose patty, which in combination with their careful cooking, makes for a perfectly juicy burger which practically melts in your mouth.
The criticism of the small bun is weak. Not a big deal. I'd take a high beef-to-bun ratio over a low ratio, which is a problem at many places, any day.
Agreed, the steak fries aren't great. But you also failed to report that you can order shoestring fries which are excellent - slim and crispy.
Paul's is a great burger because:
1) Unmatched juicy loose texture.
2) Value. Doubt you can get such a hearty cheeseburger deluxe anywhere in the city for less.
3) Atmosphere and service. The waitresses are indeed wonderfully quirky.
4) No wait. Walk right in and sit down. At places like Corner Bistro, I am so desperate for my burger by the time I sit down and get it, I practically swallow it whole, missing the taste!
CheeseburgerDeluxe at 11:52AM on 07/29/08
@CheeseburgerDeluxe
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate that you took the time to voice you opinions but I must disagree with some of them.
I agree that texture is very important but more important than any other facet? Not in my book, a great burger is about balance - both texturally and in terms of flavor profiles.
You concede that Paul's beef is not flavorful, well that essentially discounts it as a decent burger as far as I am concerned.
As for the texture of Paul's it is far too mushy, even soggy and when cooked rare lacks a decent char - a critical textural element. "unmatched juicy loose texture" - maybe on the block but compared to say the JG Melon burger I tried last week there is no comparison, the latter is leagues above Paul's. As for the criticism of the bun being weak I beg to differ. The correct ratio is crucial in a burger and Paul's is way off.
"One of the best things about Paul's is that it is almost never crowded"
I guess I am not alone in my opinion....
Nick Solares at 12:32PM on 07/29/08
Yay Paul's! I love this place. I always get a bacon cheeseburger, so maybe that's why I never notice the burgers weren't well seasoned, but the meat is great and tasty, and the burgers are big and juicy. Forget about the "specialty" burgers, Paul's will make it however you want, they even have a sign that says so. I love the funky, dirty vibe and the dyed in the wool New York attitude. This is not a crunchy, thin burger. It's a big, sloppy mess, exactly the type of burger I wouldn't make for myself at home, which is, to me, the point. I prefer this to Blue 9 and the other dedicated burger places in the area (haven't been to Veselka's yet, could change my mind completely), and I recommend trying at least once. For the price, what do you have to lose?
P.S. I'm not a shill, just someone who works in the area and is enthusiastic. Prove it? Avoid the fries, Paul's does them kind of soggy, and there is a Belgian fry joint half a block away.
Phlipper at 12:38PM on 07/29/08
@CheeseburgerDeluxe
Texture? Seriously? We're talking about FOOD. Flavor is always the most important element. If tires had the texture of fried chicken would you order them buy the bucket?
EazyB at 12:57PM on 07/29/08
@EasyB
We could have a real debate about all the elements of food that contribute to the sensory experience of eating. To dismiss texture as unimportant suggests a very callow approach to food. Limp bacon? Stale chips? Soggy crust? Icky sushi? Poor texture renders flavor irrelevant.
Fried chicken is a perfect example of the importance of texture. Dense, crispy skin giving way to moist, chewy meat...mmm. Eat a bite with your nose pinched (to minimize sensing the flavor), and I bet you would still quite enjoy it. If fried chicken had the texture of tires, would you order even a single piece????
CheeseburgerDeluxe at 1:24PM on 07/29/08
@CheeseburgerDeluxe
Let the real debate begin then. I argue that flavor is always the most important element in a hamburger, and further all food. Texture, appearance, cost, etc. are all important elements, but none the more important than flavor. I wasn't dismissing the importance of texture in general, but rather your assertion that the texture of a burger is more important than its flavor. Which I find rather silly really.
And I can't buy your argument that I would enjoy eating fried chicken even if I couldn't taste it. No one consumes anything just for its tactile pleasure alone (other than these people of course- icechewing.iswhaticrave.com), but people gladly enjoy the taste of things that otherwise have zero texture...poi, smoothies, molecular gastronomy foams, etc.
EazyB at 1:54PM on 07/29/08
i haven't been to paul's in years, but i really liked this place even if i once got a mushroom burger that included a large piece of the cardboard box the mushrooms were delivered in.
loved the bowl of pickles, but i remember their fries being limp and soggy. oh and this was definitely a splurge for a poor college kid circa 1997. b&h dairy next doors was the more economical option.
youthlarge at 2:20PM on 07/29/08
Paul's Palace is a much better name than Da Burger Joint. "Paul's Da Burger Joint" doesn't even make sense. Paul's is on a really good food block. There's B & H, the french fry place, the cheap sushi place and egg creams at Gem Spa. I do enjoy Paul's burgers though, usually with hot peppers, bacon and cheese. The dome method is a curiosity that captivates my attention. I think burgers would be less messy if we used more good manners whilst eating them.
jpgetty at 4:06PM on 07/29/08
I was just at Paul's for the first time over the weekend and loved it. I even blogged about it. My husband and I both thought the burger was very flavorful, the fries were crispy and delicious and we loved the pickles. Sure, the bun couldn't hold up to the juiciness, but it was still an excellent burger overall, at least in our opinion. The waitress was definitely on the strange side, but very accomodating nonetheless. We came home excited to see what other people thought of Paul's and almost everything online was negative. We were pretty shocked. Obviously tastes vary and maybe it was a fluke that we had such a great experience, but we'll definitely be back the next time we're in NYC.
HomeCook at 4:35PM on 07/29/08
I didn't much like Paul's burger either: Paul's Palace of Disgrace
Yuck.
mrgreenfur at 5:05PM on 07/29/08
I have the bread problem with the local best burger joint (El Cap's), I turned it upside down so that the thicker top part of the bun soaks up the juice instead of the thinner bottom part.
redfish at 5:17PM on 07/29/08
cheeseburgerdeluxe i agree with the beef to bun ratio that you had stated, more beef less bun!!! We serve our half pounders on Martin Potato rolls, yes the bun gets a little soggy from the juice but isn't that the point- juice dripping down your arm while eating it? There is no substitue in our opinion to Martins Potato Rolls, the sweet flavor coinsides with the coarse ground meat and melted cheese-delisious man!
scooter at 5:45PM on 07/29/08
Thank you Beef Aficionado for validating what I've been saying for years, Paul's is an overrated and flavorless burger which I too really want to like but can't.
NYC Food Guy at 5:48PM on 07/29/08
I would have to agree this is not a place to go for burgers. The fact they have a sign in the window saying "Best Burgers in NYC" got me in but now I resent it. There burgers are not good, the service is not good and overall I just dont feel welcome there. There are much better places...esp ones that char grill their burgers...anything less is not worth eating.
jay212 at 5:54PM on 07/29/08
I just happened to order from Paul's 2 nights ago...I live nearby, and actually have not eaten there in several years. However, whenever I'm looking for a good delivery burger, Paul's is it for me. I'm not going to say it's the greatest burger around, but as far as delivery burgers go it's quite excellent. Actually, it's one of the best delivery places in the neighborhood, period. Whoever answers the phone is always very friendly and patient, and the delivery is quick. Their shakes rock, and as for the fries I'd say you just have to know how to order them. For me, it's well-done and in a paper bag. If you just let them put them in foil, they will arrive soggy and not so great. So there are caveats, but to me that's not a big deal. It's not a top burger joint to go to, but to order in? Hell yes!
melonfan at 9:56AM on 07/30/08
I could write a treatise on the importance of food texture, but don't have it in me right now.
At least most of us agree that Paul's burger texture is very distinctive. What some call unpleasantly "mushy," I call sublimely moist and tender.
Some comments suggest that there is such a thing as a perfect burger, that a good burger must have certain qualities. But I am sure many would agree with me that burger diversity is a good thing. The world is a better place with both thin and fat patties, charred and crumbly burgers, plain burgers and those with lots of extras, burgers on plain buns and those on fancy brioche... I could go on. Criticism is a good thing, but I don't think there should be many absolute standards for burgers.
CheeseburgerDeluxe at 2:59PM on 07/30/08
Here here... I'm was sick of seeing Paul's on CitySearch and AOL top burger lists for a long time. I agree that as an ex-East Village resident, I enjoyed the heft and price of their burgers to cure a hang over... but other than that, this place should never be on anyone's top burger list. BurgerClub even gave out it's very first F! to Paul's.
And If you go to Veselka, stick with the Borscht.
BurgerSeeker at 11:04AM on 07/31/08
Finally. I was wondering why this place, which finds itself on the "top" lists hasn't been reviewed by AHT yet.
To the point: I find the review and subsequent comments to be on target: Paul's is not the best burger in town. But it is a great PLACE TO HAVE A BURGER. The atmosphere and service is the reason to come here, over more quiet joints that serve much better burgers. The way the burger is prepared, that is the beef to bun ratio, demands you to take things more lightheartedly: This is not your bourgeois burger joint, and things will get messy. (As for napkin-stinginess, when the stranger next to me spilled ketchup on my white button up, the burger flipper gave me a wet kitchen towel to clean up - so maybe they are just being eco-conscious, but with good service)
As for the comment that there is "no wait," the observation is not wholly accurate, as I find there is always a crowd at Paul's, but people tend to come and go quickly. I enjoyed a good burger here after an athletic match, and the shakes are damn good. Fries were not memorable. Bottom line is come here for the decor and the people, but the village has better burgers elsewhere. (And please, if you're going to go to Veselka, order something else besides the burger.)
Teetee at 5:37AM on 08/04/08